On 'Abri and Sharky' we discussed: Will the Haredi break up the coalition because there is no deal?

September 3, 2024   

Against the backdrop of the scenes from the Finance Committee (Gafni sits and is silent... In the background are harsh statements by MK Naama Lazimi: "You, Gafni, should have stood with your hind legs on the ransom of captives! Don't let the messiahs who took over the Knesset dictate the fate! Is that Jewish to you? Do you feel you have Jewish morality? Do you go to funerals, Gafni? Do you recite Kaddish over them? Do you have any shame? What, how far will we go? What's Jewish about abandoning our citizens, tell me?" Gafni is silent). Avri Gilad: 'Vaidum Aharon', the so-called. Sherry Roth: It's a bit unfair to say that to the Haredi parties, that every week, but every week, the Ashkenazim, Shas holds faction meetings in the Knesset less, every week they bring in families of kidnapped people, sit with tears, Goldknopf! The old man! Avri Gilad: Yes, what does that help, though? Sherry: I don't know, I don't know how much influence they have, but they really have their hearts in the place. Josh Breiner: They have influence. Sherry: What is influence? They managed to bring about a draft law for themselves, with all their 'influence'? They're not succeeding! Breiner: You touched on the point. It doesn't interest them. Sherry: No, no, no, the families of the kidnapped are an issue that interests them very much. A week ago I checked with two of the great rabbis of Israel to find out what the halakhic ruling was. So first of all they told me 'they didn't ask us', but if they ask! Yair Sharky: The rabbis said 'they didn't ask us'? You've really been covering Haredi politics for years. Much more pressing issues go to the rabbis. This story that we have a hundred or so people there, they didn't ask about that? Sherry: No, because their opinion won't determine the halakhic practice, because Deri is the only one observing, we don't even have to lift a finger. Sharky: If they say it's a pikuach nefesh, will they threaten the integrity of the coalition, or a deal? Sherry: They won't threaten the integrity of the coalition because they're not threatening anything in the integrity of the coalition. Sherry: Let them ask the rabbis, but... Sherry: No, I'm saying, what the rabbis understood is that there's no proposal on the table. In other words, there's really nothing that Sinwar has really agreed to. That's what they know. Sherry: Sherry, when Ben Gvir went to the Temple Mount, Gafni announced that he was going to the rabbis to ask if they were allowed to be in the same coalition with him. Sherry: They didn't really go to ask if it was possible to be in the same coalition with them. Sherry: So they lied to us there too. Sherry: I don't know, but what is certain is that 'Yated Ne'eman' came out with articles, including a cover and title in Arabic. Avri: Sherry, there's no moral statement. Sherry: That's not true, I hear it in a lot of their speeches, the issue of ransoming prisoners. You'll also hear it from the families of the kidnapped, these are the parties that most willingly let them in. Inbar Goldstein (her brother and niece were murdered in the massacre, and her sister-in-law and three children were kidnapped and released): Yes, we hear that from them, and we sit... Sari: Don't you feel that there is more empathy there? Inbar: There is more empathy, but in the end, in this war, we translate feelings into actions with great pragmatism. Sari: Like, you expected them to overthrow the government, and they didn't do that... Inbar: Yes! They dissolved a government over leaven in the hospitals. Sari: It's Idit Silman, it's not them. Inbar: No matter who it is, this Knesset has been shaky so many times over much more minor and esoteric things. Avri: The Mishnah, let's mention the Mishnah. Sari: It used to be, today it's not. Avri: Okay, just, I remembered that word, I liked it. Shari: Today, they don't dissolve a government, especially since they feel that there is someone behind the scenes directing the puppet, on strings, so that they dissolve the government, and they say this in interviews, 'We won't actually dissolve it.'.