''The Daycare Decree': Lior Gabay, CEO of the 'Neot Margalit' daycare chain, and also chairman of the forum of the heads of social organizations that operate daycares, including WIZO, Naamat, and more, arrived at the 'War Zone' studio on Channel 13.
""I came here to express my pain over the legal advisor's scandalous decision," he began.
First he touched on the legal argument. "These are virtual candidates for the security service," meaning some of them are people who did not even receive a 'first order.' "If this were someone who received a 'first order' and did not show up," he would talk about other arguments. But, first he talks about the argument that this is a person who is "only a candidate for conscription." The army has not yet sent him a conscription order, has not yet decided whether to send one.
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Baruch Kara: So, your argument is invalidated as soon as the order is sent to him?
No, because he has other arguments. But even Kara, a lawyer by training, at the end of the discussion, admitted that it was an interesting argument, that technically there was something to it. "I assume the state will resolve this pretty quickly when it sends out warrants to everyone.".
And he has, of course, another argument. He has been promoting women's employment for over 20 years. And "somehow we have reached a situation where the glass ceiling has been broken," and indeed there is impressive female employment. The counselor's decision will set everything back "twenty years.".
""Here are the Haredi women who want to work, go out to work, and then they come and say, 'Because the husband is supposed to be a candidate for security service, why are we denying them the ability to go out to work?'".
He said: "On the other hand, you pay all those who do not meet the High Court's requirement for conscription and perpetuate the situation.".
Shari Roth: "I'm just telling you, Rabbi Gabbay, that it's really hard for Miki Rosenthal and Razi Barkai to hear these things." He smiles.
Gabbay: "This is not about some kind of subsidy for Torah students, that's not the story. Daycare centers are not under the Ministry of Education... This is about promoting women's employment.".
Matan Khudorov: "I think you're wrong here. Because Finance Minister Lieberman also came to amend the law, so that if there aren't two breadwinners in a family, there's actually no economic justification for subsidizing daycare, because one of the parents who doesn't work can look after the children while the other parent goes to work.".
Sherry: "No, the other parent doesn't stay home!""
Gabbay: "Even a student, by the way, who studies Islamic studies, for example, is eligible if his wife works!""
Mickey Rosenthal: "You know, it's like discussing the trees instead of seeing the forest. The Haredim have been in the coalition for 20 years, it promises free education from the age of 0 and subsidized daycare for the entire public, and they don't do it and subsidize only their sector, and it's the one giving. His children and my children and your children and Matan's children deserve it. He is a citizen of the state, he is a citizen of the state and he is a citizen of the state. And you only work in the sector. That's the problem! You don't want to enlist, you only want money for your sector and you want us to continue funding it. It won't happen anymore! It won't! It's over!""
Gabbay: "So first of all, let's not talk in generalities because I do enlist... So these generalizations...""
Sherry: "It's 'you', 'you', 'these black people'...""
Mickey: "Then call on the people to join the army and let's solve the problem...""
Gabbay: "On the contrary, it is the obvious thing for the state to put its hand in its pocket and give everyone...""
Mickey: "You didn't overthrow a government over this. You overthrow a government over kosher food in a hospital.".
Sherry Roth: "As a political commentator, what I see in you, Mickey, saying what you say is that the Haredim will never be able to be part of the leftist camp. I'll explain why.".
Mickey: "I don't belong to the left or the right, equality.".
Sari: "When I spoke with Nir Barkat a few days ago, and he was very liberal and he's not completely with the draft law, etc. And he told me, 'He who studies Torah is holy.' That statement! I would like to hear it, maybe even Razi would say it. Before you speak, say, Torah studies in the Jewish state are holy!""
Watch the full discussion.
