Contrary to the attorney's denials: Amit Segal, a commentator on News 12, revealed this evening (Saturday night), on the program "Meet the Press," a recording of Gali Baharav from the height of the protests against the government, which shows that the ombudswoman opposed limiting the demonstrations, even if they severely violated public order - and she did indeed say that "there is no effective protest without disturbing public order.".
Segal: "This funny world is inhabited by an entire camp that normalized such images for two and a half years...
Ben Caspit: Like that?
Segal: Yes, of course, those, against people who are not Aharon Barak, but they are private citizens and they too once had a touch on current affairs, but today they don't anymore or they are not politicians. Because now you are going to do to me like the drawing that used to be in the weekend supplements 'Find the differences'. You say 'No, here it's a car for one and here it's roadblocks for everyone,' I blurted out. 'Here it's politicians, there it's for others,' I blurted out.
""But when it comes to private citizens who are angry with me, but today they are no longer in office, Aharon Barak, or others, then I will bring the outburst to the Kohelet forum, Sara Netanyahu is having a haircut. You know what? I want to show you a previous picture that disgusted me, 'Barbershop Command Major General Yair Golan reenacting Operation Sarah'... (Golan's words are shown).
""Pay attention to how we started here. We started here when you told me: 'Amit, maybe without grief and without shame and without any regret you will condemn this thing, and so it was. And now, when I ask you to condemn a criminal, thuggish outburst at the Kohelet forum for a research institute, then you start explaining to me from the parshas of this week, why they are related to Bibi, which is related to Sarah, which is related to this... including a siege on her barbershop.
""Then we got to the Holocaust survivor. Sorry, I apologize, I value Aharon Barak a hundred times more than calling him a Holocaust survivor. Because his life didn't end when he left the Kovno ghetto about 80 years ago, and he was a man who did things here, you agree with them, I disagree with most of them, a glorious career, and I suggest that we look at reality and we can't, say, invent a rule book that says it's permissible to attack, but not if it's Mordechai David... It's permissible to attack, but not if it's a Holocaust survivor...
""No. If you are against violence, if you are against bullying, and by the way, it is not violence but bullying, then it doesn't matter if it is Mordechai David the Mizrahi or Yair Golan the Ashkenazi - it is forbidden. And with all due respect to the fact that you can't stand Sara Netanyahu, then still besieging her hairdresser and flaunting it like Yair Golan as if it is the devil-knows-what, that is beside the point.
""I think part of this issue and this culture, and Mordechai David is the counter-reaction, is because of a reckless decision made by the Attorney General who said and normalized all these phenomena that are now exploding in your face. Now, there were denials by the Attorney General that she did not say that 'there is no effective protest without disturbing public order.' So I rummaged through my archives and brought you the recording, 2023, come and see...
The Advocate General at the government meeting in July 2023: "We need to understand that the meaning of a confrontation is freedom of political expression, and part of it is the fact that this protest is supposed - and this is legitimate - to create a disturbance in the public space, noise, harassment. There is no other protest that is effective. A democracy that is committed to freedom of expression recognizes this from a legal perspective, that freedom of expression has a price - sometimes a significant one.".
She added: "On the other hand, the right to freedom of expression is not an absolute right, it is a relative right. The fundamental idea is one of balance and discretion, a balance between protecting freedom of expression while maintaining public order, the entire public, and the rights of the entire public. The ruling formulated a very strict threshold test for imposing restrictions on demonstrations, and the test is a near certainty of severe and serious harm.".
According to her, "Within the framework of the discretionary tests of restrictions, this is a very high and stringent threshold to determine that there is a need to intervene or suppress.".
Segal: "In short, you didn't have to convince me that what he did was obscene and bullying. But you do have to convince me that, contrary to what the attorney general says, it is a criminal offense...""
Ben Caspit: "Mordechai David, this is threatening and criminal harassment...
(Segal: "And Sarah Netanyahu? And the Kohelet Forum?""
Caspit: "And we will take revenge. Sara Netanyahu, if she were in danger, someone would dare to raise their hand, but yes, it was spontaneous, Sara Netanyahu is the person who has the most influence on our lives...
Segal: "So Sarah is allowed...""
Caspit: "Opening a door for her and screaming in her face is no, but hiding in front of her hair is.".
(Faculty: "It's not threatening...""
Caspit: "I don't really remember the Kohelet forum...""
Segal: "A break-in. You don't remember because there was no uproar about it, that's why you don't remember. It didn't say - pointing towards the teaser at the bottom of the screen - 'The violent attack on the Kohelet forum'...""
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