{"id":644469,"date":"2020-12-16T00:15:37","date_gmt":"2020-12-15T22:15:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ch10.co.il\/?p=644469"},"modified":"2020-12-16T00:18:07","modified_gmt":"2020-12-15T22:18:07","slug":"%d7%a1%d7%a2%d7%a8-%d7%a6%d7%a8%d7%99%d7%9a-%d7%9c%d7%94%d7%95%d7%a6%d7%99%d7%90-%d7%a2%d7%9d-%d7%a4%d7%99%d7%a0%d7%a6%d7%98%d7%94-%d7%93%d7%91%d7%a8%d7%99%d7%9d-%d7%a9%d7%a2%d7%a9%d7%94-%d7%91","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ch10.co.il\/en\/news\/644469\/","title":{"rendered":"'&#039;Saar needs to tweezers out things he did - and Bennett brings a rich record&#039; I Watch"},"content":{"rendered":"<strong>Yuval Karni:<\/strong> We heard Ram Shefa here this morning say: &#039;The crisis can only be resolved if the Likud makes a 180-degree U-turn.&#039; Minister Tzachi Hanegbi replied to him: &#039;We&#039;re going to the elections unless a Hanukkah miracle happens.&#039; Your assessment?\r\n\r\n<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a style=\"color: #ff0000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.shelachem.com\/lp-2\/?utm_source=charedim10&amp;utm_medium=mail&amp;utm_campaign=charedim10&amp;utm_content=dicon\">Aharon from Beit Shemesh receives 6,400 shekels every month because of depression. Maybe you deserve it too?<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/strong>\r\n\r\n<strong>Tal Schneider:<\/strong> &quot;The assessment is that as we head into the elections, with these texts you&#039;ve pulled out of the years, it seems that Blue and White, who are supposedly leading the process, are less interested, even though they&#039;re playing it off as wanting elections. That&#039;s how it looks behind the scenes. And we know that behind the scenes in Blue and White, the situation is very difficult, very complex, and the elections right now are not good for them, they&#039;re ending these seven-eight months in a very difficult situation.&quot;.\r\n\r\n<strong>Yuval Karni<\/strong>: \u05e9\u05e8\u05d9, \u05d9\u05e9 \u05dc\u05da \u05d0\u05d9\u05d6\u05d5 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d0 \u05ea\u05d7\u05d5\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d7\u05e8\u05ea, \u05d0\u05d5 \u05e9\u05d0\u05ea \u05de\u05ea\u05d9\u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05ea \u05d2\u05dd \u05e2\u05dd \u05d8\u05dc \u05d5\u05d0\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d1\u05de\u05d9\u05d3\u05d4 \u05e8\u05d1\u05d4 \u05d2\u05dd \u05d0\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5, \u05e9\u05d0\u05e0\u05d7\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d3\u05e8\u05da \u05dc\u05d1\u05d7\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea?\r\n\r\n\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05e8\u05d5\u05d8: \u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05ea\u05d9\u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05ea \u05e2\u05dd \u05db\u05dc \u05de\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 \u05d1\u05d7\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea, \u05db\u05d9 \u05db\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05db\u05de\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05e9\u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d2\u05d5 \u05d0\u05d9\u05d6\u05d5\u05e9\u05d4\u05d9 \u05e4\u05e9\u05e8\u05d4 \u05db\u05d0\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d5\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05e2\u05d5\u05d3 \u05e7\u05e6\u05ea \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05d5\u05e2\u05d3, \u05e2\u05e9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d7\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05d1 \u05de\u05d4\u05d9\u05e8, \u05d0\u05d6 \u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d5\u05d3\u05e2\u05ea \u05e2\u05d3\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05ea\u05d0\u05e8\u05d9\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d3\u05d5\u05d9\u05e7, \u05d0\u05e3 \u05d0\u05d7\u05d3 \u05e2\u05d5\u05d3 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d5\u05d3\u05e2, \u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05e6\u05d9\u05d9\u05e6\u05ea\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d6\u05d4 \u05e0\u05d5\u05e4\u05dc \u05db\u05de\u05d4 \u05d9\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7. \u05db\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05db\u05e0\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d0\u05ea \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05d9 \u05d5\u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05e1\u05de\u05e8\u05d8\u05d5\u05d8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05dc\u05e2\u05e8\u05d1 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7, \u05d9\u05d7\u05d3 \u05e2\u05dd \u05d1\u05d7\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea.\r\n\r\n\u05db\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05d9\u05d3\u05e2\u05d5 \u05e9\u05e0\u05ea\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4\u05d5 \u05ea\u05db\u05e0\u05df \u05d0\u05ea \u05d6\u05d4 \u05de\u05d4\u05ea\u05d7\u05dc\u05d4, \u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05de\u05ea\u05db\u05d5\u05d5\u05df \u05dc\u05ea\u05ea \u05dc\u05d2\u05e0\u05e5 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05e8\u05d5\u05d8\u05e6\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d5\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05db\u05dc \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05e9\u05e6\u05e8\u05d9\u05da \u05dc\u05e2\u05e9\u05d5\u05ea \u05d1\u05e9\u05d1\u05d9\u05dc \u05d6\u05d4. \u05d9\u05d3\u05e2\u05ea\u05d9 \u05db\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d1\u05e2\u05ea \u05d4\u05e7\u05de\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05de\u05e9\u05dc\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05d4\u05e1\u05db\u05dd \u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u05e0\u05e9\u05ea\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d0\u05d5\u05e4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d5\u05ea \u05e9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05d0\u05e4\u05e9\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05d6\u05d5 \u05dc\u05e0\u05e1\u05d9\u05d2\u05d4, \u05d0\u05dc\u05d2\u05e0\u05d8\u05d9\u05ea \u05d0\u05d5 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d0\u05dc\u05d2\u05e0\u05d8\u05d9\u05ea, \u05dc\u05d0 \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d9\u05da \u05ea\u05e1\u05ea\u05db\u05dc\u05d5 \u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4. \u05d6\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e9\u05d5\u05d8 \u05db\u05de\u05d5 \u05d1\u05df \u05d0\u05d3\u05dd \u05e9\u05d4\u05e8\u05d5\u05e4\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05da \u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05e2\u05d5\u05de\u05d3 \u05dc\u05de\u05d5\u05ea, \u05d5\u05d0\u05ea\u05d4 \u05e2\u05d5\u05de\u05d3 \u05d5\u05e1\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05d3\u05e7\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d6\u05d4 \u05d9\u05e7\u05e8\u05d4. \u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d7\u05d5\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea \u05e9\u05d9\u05e9 \u05dc\u05de\u05d9\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e9\u05e2\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d7\u05e8\u05ea.\r\n\r\n<strong>Tal Schneider:<\/strong> At this point in life, we don&#039;t care if the elections are before Passover, as long as we have the opportunity to celebrate Passover with our family.\r\n\r\n<strong>Sherry Roth:<\/strong> It&#039;s already under the control of Corona...\r\n\r\n<strong>Yuval Karni:<\/strong> Tal Schneider, if we agreed that we are going to the elections, let&#039;s open the cards and look at the political map. We see that the big drama in the right-wing bloc, two candidates competing with Netanyahu, both Naftali Bennett and Gideon Sa&#039;ar, while the left is kind of looking for itself. Will it stay like this or will the fluctuations in the political system change over time?\r\n\r\n<strong>Tal Schneider:<\/strong> Look, this is an amazing thing. Naftali Bennett was, to some extent, up until about a week ago in a kind of surprising but fairly stable lead, for several months. And it turns out that all he had to do to continue to be high in the polls was say &#039;Just not Bibi.&#039; Yes, there is such a market. If until 2021 we thought that &#039;Just not Bibi&#039; was a market of the center-left, it turns out that there are massive opinions on the right that also want &#039;Just not Bibi.&#039;.\r\n\r\n<strong>Yuval Karni:<\/strong> Yesterday, Naftali Bennett took a few steps back with this &#039;just not Bibi&#039; move.\r\n\r\n<strong>Tal Schneider:<\/strong> That&#039;s right, and he&#039;s dropping in the polls, mind you. Who jumped in the polls? The new &#039;Just Not Bibi&#039; party. What everyone thought might be that Bennett, because he&#039;s declaring himself prime minister, was in excellent shape, suddenly he shrinks back and Saar takes this primacy away from him with a swing. So I, the way I understand this, and it surprises me because I thought that &#039;Just Not Bibi&#039; belonged to the left, it turns out that there&#039;s a demand for it on the right as well. 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In many ways, he is even much more right-wing than Netanyahu. 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