{"id":182946,"date":"2015-07-05T13:43:48","date_gmt":"2015-07-05T10:43:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ch10.co.il\/?p=182946"},"modified":"2025-08-05T15:39:38","modified_gmt":"2025-08-05T12:39:38","slug":"%d7%9e%d7%93%d7%95%d7%a2-%d7%9c%d7%90-%d7%9e%d7%93%d7%91%d7%a8%d7%99%d7%9d-%d7%a2%d7%9c-%d7%92%d7%93%d7%95%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%9d-%d7%91%d7%92%d7%9c%d7%9c-%d7%9b%d7%91%d7%95%d7%93-%d7%90%d7%95","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ch10.co.il\/en\/news\/182946\/","title":{"rendered":"Why don't we talk about 'big ones'?"},"content":{"rendered":"

My sociologist friend, Prof. A.A., you wondered why I declared to you that the Haredim \u2013 despite the bloody battles of the 'haters' and 'terrorists' \u2013 have an almost supernatural fear of uttering derogatory words against the great rabbis, even not in their presence, and not even among themselves.<\/p>\r\n

This reluctance, I argued to you, is anchored in an inherent respect for the 'greatest generation', and the recognition that these are people elevated from the people, who are on 'another planet', and hence it is almost dangerously inappropriate to speak about them at all.<\/p>\r\n

You mentioned, with perfect pronunciation, I must say, the 'terrorists' and the 'haters', and you mentioned the breakdown of Lithuanian monogamy, but even there you can see, not necessarily with much effort, that apart from the hard, radical core, no one on either side is really willing to condemn the leader of the other camp.<\/p>\r\n

Even during the difficult municipal elections, the avrechim were accustomed to resting their right palm on the tablet of their hearts and saying in a confident voice: "I will not say a word about Rabbi Shmuel (Auerbach), he is righteous and holy, a pure Jew," or: "Rabbi Steinman is a great man, the great of his generation, no one disputes that," and finally, "Rabbi So-and-so is allowed to say, we are not allowed to speak.".<\/p>\r\n

So what is it?<\/p>\r\n

Names unfamiliar to secular ears such as Nati Grossman, David Shapira, Hapeles, the Bani Bayit, the activists, etc. will quickly be accused of creating all the commotion.<\/p>\r\n

No criticism will usually be mentioned against the rabbis themselves. Even in cases where it is not possible to 'blame' and place responsibility for the split on the 'courtiers', the Haredi individuals will find halachic techniques that clarify why one should listen to a particular rabbi, even though the opposing rabbi is also a 'great man', etc.<\/p>\r\n

\u00a0So what bothers me? Aren't these norms derived from a concept of absolute respect for the rabbis \u2013 something I also believe in?<\/p>\r\n

Two things:<\/p>\r\n

First, I am interested in examining whether respect for rabbis is 'genuine' and not a function of fear of 'capida', etc. Is there also respect in the heart for a rabbi who is not in the right camp, or is there only a verbal concern-fear of not uttering obscene words about Torah greats?<\/p>\r\n

\u00a0Additionally, I am intrigued by the unwritten Haredi recognition that the prohibition against speaking about rabbis and the danger of speaking only applies to members of the sector. If a secular figure were to open his mouth against rabbis, the attitude towards him, in this regard, would be completely different.<\/p>\r\n

For example, in an Israeli investigative program called "Returners with Repentance," which aired about two years ago, journalists Orly Vilnai and Guy Meroz investigated the issue of organ donation in Israel, focusing on the influence of religious factors on families who are asked to donate the organs of their loved ones.<\/p>\r\n

\u00a0During the program, a video clip filmed with a hidden camera was shown in which one of the most well-known Torah scholars is presented in a distorted, distorted, and negative light. Anyone who knows, even a little, the facts as they are, is astonished by this blatant, not to mention superficial and unintelligent bias, and yet, 'the sky has not fallen.' Apart from a letter sent by my friends from the 'Dosim' organization, no one cried out or expressed shock at the insolent behavior of the two journalists.<\/p>\r\n

One can only imagine if a film of this type were shown by an ultra-Orthodox website, newspaper, or media outlet.<\/p>\r\n

Besides the great anger and the massive protest that was rightly directed towards him, the discourse that arose following the publication was "How dare they, how are they not afraid"?<\/p>\r\n

Why does this discourse only work within the camp?<\/p>\r\n

\"\u05e8\u05d9\u05d1\u05dc\u05d9\u05df,<\/a><\/p>\r\n

The story of a genius:<\/strong> President Reuven Rivlin has sent two more pearls in recent weeks. The first was when he came to pay a condolence visit to the Gonen family, whose son Danny was murdered by a terrorist while walking in a stream near Dolev.<\/p>\r\n

Rivlin, in a burst of wisdom that stems from sensitivity, asked the family why their son went down to the stream when he was unarmed? The family members were hurt in response, and said that they "strongly condemn the president's words about our son not carrying a weapon.".<\/p>\r\n

The family even refused to speak to the genius on the phone.<\/p>\r\n

Not long after, the Jerusalem basketball team, consisting of a number of young Israelis and African-American Gentiles, won the state championship, and the delighted president declared (humorously?): "After 3,000 years in which Jerusalem was the capital of Israel, you brought it a championship. Since King David, you are the most famous in the city.".<\/p>\r\n

And after that I am asked again and again: Why do you say it is not the sharpest pencil in the pencil case, why?<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"On the Haredi street, there is a justified understanding that it is forbidden to talk about 'great people' - is this a perception of true respect or is it just a function of fear of 'capida'? \u2022 Also: Meet the brilliant president of the State of Israel","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[138],"tags":[8962,6993,7652,947,1152,3681],"class_list":["post-182946","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-138","tag-8962","tag-6993","tag-7652","tag-947","tag-1152","tag-3681"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\n\u05de\u05d3\u05d5\u05e2 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05de\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05e2\u05dc '\u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd'? - \u05d7\u05e8\u05d3\u05d9\u05dd10<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ch10.co.il\/en\/news\/182946\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"\u05de\u05d3\u05d5\u05e2 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05de\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05e2\u05dc '\u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd'? 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